SOLVING THE MYSTERY OF THE FIRST NATCHITOCHES LEMOINE (Created with Perplexiy AI)

 

The Paternal Ancestry of Howard Henry Lemoine, Jr.: Evidence Report on Charles "Carlos" (Francois?) Lemoine of Natchitoches

This is exactly the type of report an obsessive genealogist really loves.  A Family History mystery solved by careful application of systematic study to relevant records.  It is also fun for amateurs because the key piece of evidence can be appreciated fully for what it means and what it proves.  Hopefully everyone can enjoy at least part of this story.

A Note on Spelling: There are at least 7 different ways of spellng the family name.  In this report we use LeMoyne (the older, 17th century spelling) and Lemoine (the generally accepted modern spelling).  I don't claim to use any consistent rule in spellng. 

THE CONTROVERSIES

We know that Charles "Carlos" Lemoine was the forebearer of the Lemoine Family of Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana.  Charles was a young soldier at Fort Saint-Denis when Natchitoches was still a French trading post dedicated to holding back Spanish aggression from the neighboring settlement at Los Adias.  His direct descendants have lived in the same region for 300 years, and have married descendants of many of the other founding families of both Natchitoches and LosAdias.  (For example, Henry Lemoine, in addition to his direct paternal descent from  Charles Lemoine, is also descended from the founder of the Fort, Saint-Denis.) 

However, there have always been questions about Charles Lemoine's personal and family history.  Even the details of his name raise the question of whether there were two Natchitoches soldiers named "Lemoine" (a Charles and a Francois) or one soldier named Charles Franscois Lemoine.   This question is answered by the following research.

There were three major theories as to the "identity" and parentage of Charles "Carlos" (Francios?) Lemoine.  These are based on three different lines of research by three different entities: 

Louis Nardini, a Natchitoches historian, and friend of the 20th century Lemoine family, maintained that Francois Lemoine (as he named him) was a cousin of Saint-Denis, a nephew of Iberville and Bienville, and a grandson of Charles LeMoyne, Canadian colonist.  He said that, like his cousin Saint-Denis, Francois Lemoine married a "Spainish" wife.

Elizabeth Shown Mills, world recognized genealogist, who transcribed and published early church documents from Natchitoches, identified Charles as the son of Michael LeMoine and Marie Guenard, and born in Kaskaskia, Prairie du Rocher or Fort de Chartres in Illinois.

Pointe Coupee Records on Wikitree. More recently discovered records have established that a widow named Marie Gouenard, married Guillaume Lemoine in Point Coupee, Louisiana.  Charles Lemoine (at the correct age) is listed in records as Guillaume's "step-son."  This led to Guillaume Lemoine being listed as Charles Lemoine's father (or step father) in many family trees.  

The PRIMARY task was to determine which (if any) of these theories is true.  One single record was found, and demonstrated to hold answers to many critical Questions. 

Central Questions Addressed by this Research:

1. Who were Charles's parents: Michel Lemoine and Marie Gagnard/Joignard, Guillaume (William)  Lemoine, or someone else? 

2,Where was he born: Kaskaskia, Prairie du Rocher, or Fort de Chartres in Illinois, or Pointe Coupée in Louisiana?

3.Is there any documented kinship with the Canadian Le Moyne family, including the specific chain Nardini proposed? 

4. Were there one or two Lemoine soldiers stationed at Ft. Saint-Denis during this time period, if so, who did they marry and what descendants did they leave?

The following REPORT: 

1. Discusses the Findings, and presents images, transcriptions, and translations, as well as discussion of the Key Piece of Evidence.

2. Draws Conclusions, and explains the basis for each Conclusion, citing evidence and giving references.

REMAINING  MYSTERIES  (At the end see if you agree).  

We still do not know if the two husbands of Marie Gouenard (both reported to be LeMoynes) are related, and if so, How?  We know there were two Lemoine soldiers (Charles and Francios) at Ft. Saint-Denis, but we don't know if they were related to each other and/or to Guillaume (William)?

The Main Result

The original 4 June 1754 marriage entry for Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez survives in the Natchitoches register, and I read it on FamilySearch [F1]. It states that Charles was "natif des Illinois paroisse de Cascakia" (a native of the Illinois, parish of Kaskaskia) and the "fils legitime de defunt michel le moine" (legitimate son of the late Michel Le Moine) "et de marie guenard" (and of Marie Guenard). This is the first statement of Charles's parents and birthplace found in an original record. It agrees with Mills abstract no. 730 as cited on the family group sheet [U3], and it settles the main question in the brief.

• Michel Le Moine and Marie Guenard are now the documented parents of Charles. The record names them directly. It is a contemporary record, created when Charles was about 25, and the information most likely came from Charles himself.
• Kaskaskia, in the Illinois Country, is the documented birthplace as stated at his marriage. No baptism has been found. A birthplace given by an adult about himself is reliable in most cases, but it is still secondhand information about his own birth.
• Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand was Charles's stepfather, not his father. The marriage names Michel, not Guillaume. That fits the 1745 census, which shows Charles, 16, in the household of Guillaume and Marie [N5], and the 1742 marriage of Guillaume to "Marie Gagnard ... widow of Michel Lemoine" [N6].
• Marie Guenard of the 1754 entry and Marie Gagnard of the 1742 DOBR abstract are the same woman by every available test. The 1754 entry says Marie was a native of Nantes ("natif de nantes evesché de meme," meaning of Nantes, in the diocese of the same name). The 1742 abstract says Marie Gagnard was from St. Erbilon in the diocese of Nantes [N6]. Both records also say she was Michel's widow.

Literal Transcription: Marriage of Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 June 1754 [F1]

Source: Catholic Church, St. François (Natchitoches), "Parish registers, 1729–1796," Southern Microfilm, FamilySearch film 1026611, image group (DGS) 8130851, item 2, image 126 (right-hand page, first entry). The filmed volume is labelled "Archives, Immaculate Conception Church at Natchitoches." Officiant: Fr. Eustache, Capuchin, curé.

Conventions: original spelling, capitalization and punctuation as far as legible. Line breaks are not preserved. [?] marks an uncertain reading. Square brackets enclose my expansions.

Image: FamilySearch DGS 8130851, image 126 (detail, contrast adjusted). Marriage of Charle le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, Natchitoches, 4 June 1754.

Margin: "1754 / Charle / le moine / et / elisabth / Dupres"

Text: "lan mil sept cent cinquante quatre le quatre juin je soussigné prestre cap[ucin] miss[ionnaire] apost[olique] curé de la paroisse de st francois poste des natchitoches province de la Louisianne apres la publication de trois bans aux prones de la messe paroissiale dont le 1er a eté le vingt six de may le 2de le second de juin le troisieme le quatre du meme mois et année que cy dessus n'ayant trouvé aucun impechement canonique ai conjoins en mariage apres avoir reçu leur consentement mutuel par les francailles charle le moine natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia evesche de quebec fils legitime de defunt michel le moine natif de bresse [or Brest?] et de marie guenard natif de nantes evesche de meme ses pere et mere d'une part et elisabth duprez natif de cette paroisse evesche de quebec veuve de defunt la verdure [?] fille legitime de jacques duprez natif de paris et d'anne marie philippe natif du palantina ses pere et mere d'autre part en foy de quoy jay signé avec les epoux et les temoins requis qui ont signé avec moy le jour et an que cy dessus"

Signatures and marks: "marque ordinaire de l'epoux +"; "marque de l'epouse +"; "Dubois [?]"; "Monet [?]"; "marque du Sr. [Bard?] +"; "Jean francois Breton"; "f. eustache curé".

Translation of the key clauses: "... I have joined in marriage ... Charles Le Moine, native of the Illinois, parish of Kaskaskia, diocese of Quebec, legitimate son of the late Michel Le Moine, native of Bresse [or Brest?], and of Marie Guenard, native of Nantes, diocese of the same, his father and mother, of the one part; and Elisabeth Duprez, native of this parish, diocese of Quebec, widow of the late La Verdure [?], legitimate daughter of Jacques Duprez, native of Paris, and of Anne Marie Philippe, native of the Palatinate, her father and mother, of the other part ..."

Reading notes:

1. "Michel le moine" and "marie guenard" are clear. "Cascakia" is clear and stands for Kaskaskia.
2. Michel's birthplace is written "bresse." It could mean the historic province of Bresse (in modern Ain, eastern France), or it could be a phonetic spelling of Brest (Brittany). The record does not say which. Neither reading matches the family-supplied birthplace of Lanrelas (Côtes-d'Armor, old diocese of Saint-Malo) exactly, so the Lanrelas identification stays unproved (see conflict C8).
3. "Evesche de quebec" does not mean Charles was born in Canada. In 1754 the diocese of Quebec covered all of French North America, including the Illinois Country and lower Louisiana. The same entry also puts Elisabeth, a native of Natchitoches, in the "diocese of Quebec."
4. "Veuve de defunt la verdure" (widow of the late La Verdure) is a partial reading. Version 1 reported, from Mills's TAG article, that Elisabeth was the widow of Jean Louis Garein [S1]. La Verdure is probably his dit name, but this is not proved.
5. The surname Le Moine is spelled as two words. The register does not use the Le Moyne spelling.

Mills no. 730 as reported on the family group sheet [U3] agrees with this entry on the father's name, the mother's name, and Kaskaskia (the sheet cites the Kaskaskia birth to no. 3051, the burial). The burial entry itself has still not been read.

Literal Transcription: Baptism of Jean Baptiste Le Moine, 22 May 1768 [F2]

Source: same film, DGS 8130851, item 2, image 158, left-hand page, entry no. 5. Officiant: Fr. Stanislas, Capuchin, curé. The page is badly damaged by ink bleed-through, and some words cannot be read.

Image: FamilySearch DGS 8130851, image 158 (detail, contrast adjusted). Baptism of Jean Baptiste Le Moine, Natchitoches, 22 May 1768.

Margin: "Jean Baptiste / Lemoine"

Text, as far as legible: "Lan mil sept cent soixante [huit] le vingt deux may je soussigné prestre capucin missionnaire apostolique et royal curé de Natchitoches ai baptisé Jean Baptiste né le dix neuf du meme mois du legitime mariage de Charle Le moine habitant [?] et d'Elisabeth Dupré. Le parrain a eté Jean Baptiste Dupré et la marraine marie Derbanne qui ont marqué en foy de quoy jay signé ... Stanislas curé"

This original agrees with Mills no. 930 [U1] on the dates (born 19 May, baptized 22 May 1768), the parents and the godparents. Together with Mills no. 1679 [U2], it brings the Jean Baptiste → Charles link to Confirmed.

Marriage of Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 June 1754

DRAFT FOR REVIEW. Prepared 14 November 2026 by Perplexity Computer for Frances Jackson Freeman.

Source: Catholic Church, St. François (Natchitoches), "Parish registers, 1729–1796," Southern Microfilm, FamilySearch film 1026611, DGS 8130851, item 2, image 126 (right-hand page, first entry). Viewed on FamilySearch, 14 November 2026. Transcription and translation by Perplexity Computer from the filmed original.

Image: FamilySearch DGS 8130851, image 126 (detail, contrast adjusted). Marriage of Charle le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, Natchitoches, 4 June 1754.

Conventions: Square brackets mark editorial additions. [?] marks a word whose reading is uncertain.

Margin Note

"1754 / Charles / Le Moine / and / Elisabeth / Duprez"

English Translation

"In the year one thousand seven hundred fifty-four, on the fourth of June, I, the undersigned priest, Capuchin, apostolic missionary, curé of the parish of St. François at the post of the Natchitoches, province of Louisiana, have joined in marriage Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez. I did so after the publication of three banns at the sermons of the parish Mass, the first on the twenty-sixth of May, the second on the second of June, and the third on the fourth of the same month and year as above. No canonical impediment was found, and I received their mutual consent through the betrothal [vows].

Charles Le Moine is a native of the Illinois, parish of Kaskaskia, diocese of Quebec. He is the legitimate son of the late Michel Le Moine, native of Bresse [or Brest?], and of Marie Guenard, native of Nantes, of the same diocese [Nantes], his father and mother, of the one part.

Elisabeth Duprez is a native of this parish, diocese of Quebec, and the widow of the late La Verdure [?]. She is the legitimate daughter of Jacques Duprez, native of Paris, and of Anne Marie Philippe, native of the Palatinate, her father and mother, of the other part.

In witness whereof I have signed, together with the spouses and the required witnesses, who signed with me on the day and year above."

Signatures and Marks

• The groom's usual mark: +
• The bride's mark: +
• Dubois [?]
• Monet [?]
• The mark of Sieur [Bard?]: +
• Jean François Breton
• Fr. Eustache, curé

Original French Transcription

Original spelling, capitalization and punctuation are kept as far as they can be read. Line breaks are not preserved.

"lan mil sept cent cinquante quatre le quatre juin je soussigné prestre cap[ucin] miss[ionnaire] apost[olique] curé de la paroisse de st francois poste des natchitoches province de la Louisianne apres la publication de trois bans aux prones de la messe paroissiale dont le 1er a eté le vingt six de may le 2de le second de juin le troisieme le quatre du meme mois et année que cy dessus n'ayant trouvé aucun impechement canonique ai conjoins en mariage apres avoir reçu leur consentement mutuel par les francailles charle le moine natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia evesche de quebec fils legitime de defunt michel le moine natif de bresse [or Brest?] et de marie guenard natif de nantes evesche de meme ses pere et mere d'une part et elisabth duprez natif de cette paroisse evesche de quebec veuve de defunt la verdure [?] fille legitime de jacques duprez natif de paris et d'anne marie philippe natif du palantina ses pere et mere d'autre part en foy de quoy jay signé avec les epoux et les temoins requis qui ont signé avec moy le jour et an que cy dessus"

Margin (original): "1754 / Charle / le moine / et / elisabth / Dupres"

Reading Notes

• What a Capuchin is: a friar of a Catholic religious order. Fr. Eustache, who signed the entry, was the priest in charge of the parish.
• "Diocese of Quebec": the Bishop of Quebec had church authority over all of French North America, including Louisiana and the Illinois Country. The phrase does not mean Charles or Elisabeth was born in Canada.
• "Of the same diocese": this means Marie Guenard came from the diocese of Nantes.
• "Bresse": this is the spelling in the record. It may mean the province of Bresse in eastern France or be a sound-alike spelling of Brest in Brittany. Neither matches the family-supplied birthplace of Lanrelas exactly.
• "La Verdure": this was probably the nickname (dit name) of Elisabeth's first husband, Jean Louis Garein. The reading is not certain.
• The crosses: Charles and Elisabeth each signed with a cross, which suggests neither could write their name.
• Witness names: Dubois, Monet and Bard are uncertain readings and should be checked against other Natchitoches records.

References

1. Catholic Church, St. François (Natchitoches, Louisiana), "Parish registers, 1729–1796," FamilySearch catalog: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:70089
2. Marriage of Charle le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 June 1754, FamilySearch film 1026611, DGS 8130851, image 126: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/film?dgs=008130851&cat=koha:70089&i=125

1754 Marriage of Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez: Translation | HTML version generated 14 November 2026 from the same source as the PDF.

What This Means for Doubts About Michel

The user reported that Michel came directly from France to Louisiana and that no record shows him "going north." The 1754 marriage does not conflict with a direct arrival from France. In the 1720s the Illinois Country, including Kaskaskia, was part of the French colony of Louisiana and was governed from New Orleans. A colonist who landed in lower Louisiana could move up the Mississippi to Kaskaskia without ever entering Canada. The record does mean that Michel and Marie were probably in the Illinois Country around 1728–29, when Charles was born, and back in lower Louisiana (Pointe Coupée) before Michel's death in 1742. No record of Michel at Kaskaskia has yet been found, so that residence is inferred from his son's birthplace, not observed.

What This Means for the Canadian Le Moyne Question

• Direct paternal line. Charles's father was Michel Le Moine, born in France ("bresse," that is Bresse or perhaps Brest). He was not one of the Montreal-born Le Moyne brothers or their sons. On the documentary evidence, descent in the direct male line from the Le Moyne de Longueuil family is now contradicted, not merely unsupported.
• Nardini. Version 1's finding stands: Nardini's progenitor was the Amboise soldier François LeMoine dit La Vidette [N2]. The 1754 record gives Charles a different father.
• Other routes. A Canadian link through Marie Guenard (a native of Nantes) or through Elisabeth Duprez's family (Paris and the Palatinate) is not suggested by anything found. The "diocese of Quebec" wording is the likely origin of some Canadian assumptions, but it describes church jurisdiction, not birthplace.
• Y-DNA. A Y-DNA test is still worthwhile. It cannot be a Le Moyne de Longueuil signature if the documents are right. A match with Guillaume's descendants would point to a hidden relationship between Michel and Guillaume (for example, brothers or cousins). There is no evidence of that, because Guillaume came from Le Havre [N6].

Other FamilySearch Results

Item	Result	Code
Natchitoches "Parish registers, 1729–1796" (film 1026611, DGS 8130851)	Digitized and viewable. Contents: item 1, baptisms, marriages and burials 1734–1750 and 1759–1764; item 2, baptisms 1729, 1751–1759 and 1765–1769, marriages 1751–1759 and 1764–1784, burials 1751–1758 and 1775–1791; item 3, baptisms and marriages 1786–1792; item 4, baptisms 1776–1796. The 1754 marriage and 1768 baptism were found. Images 87–246 (all of item 2) were saved to the working folder.	F1, F2, F3
Charles's 1798 burial (Mills no. 3051)	Not on this film, because its burials stop in 1791. No other digitized Natchitoches burial register for 1792–1803 was found in the FamilySearch catalog.	F3
Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803	The FamilySearch catalog lists it as a book (976.365 V26m) and on 6 microfiches (6049052) with no digital images. It is not in FamilySearch Books.	F8
Kaskaskia "Parish registers, 1695–1843 (abridged transcript)," Public Archives of Canada copy	Digitized (film 1026607, DGS 8130870, item 3, images 156–201) and examined. The surviving baptisms in this copy end about 1722. The marriages run 1724–1729. I scanned the marginal names of the marriages and burials and found no Le Moine. Not every margin gives full names, so this is not a complete negative.	F4
Kaskaskia, Biloxi and New Orleans "Registres paroissiaux, 1720–1734" (Archives nationales, Outre-Mer)	Listed (DGS 8105965). For Kaskaskia it covers only 1723–1724, which is before Charles's birth. Not examined.	F4
Natchitoches "Conveyance records ... 1738–1900" (index and books) and "Miscellaneous archive records, 1726–1835"	Both image groups show "Unable to Display Image Group": the custodian restricts viewing. They may be viewable at a FamilySearch Center or affiliate library.	F7
Pointe Coupée church records	The FamilySearch catalog holds only De Ville, First Settlers of Pointe Coupee (book). No register images were found.	F9
Historical records index	The 1810 census of Natchitoches indexes "Charles Lemoine" and "Jean Ble Lemoine." The 1820 census indexes "Widow Lemoine." These belong to the generation after Carlos.	F6
Full-text search ("michel le moine," "le moine" with Kaskaskia or Pointe Coupée, "charles lemoine" Natchitoches)	Results were dominated by Belgian, French and Quebec notarial records. American State Papers land entries named a Charles Lemoine at Natchitoches (1812), probably Charles Jr. Nothing bearing on Carlos's parents was found.	—
FamilySearch Family Tree, Charles Francois Lemoine, LCPP-927	It shows birth 1728 at Kaskaskia; death 20 September 1798 at Natchitoches; marriage 4 June 1754 to Elizabeth Dupre; seven children. It attaches Charles as a child of Guillaume dit Le Normand Lemoine (L6QP-8WH) and Marie L'Este Sanmerine (L5DL-Y2K). The 1754 original contradicts those parents. The profile has one source and a "Low" quality score. We changed the Tree.	F5

Summary of Findings 

Charles "Carlos" Francois Lemoine is still the earliest confidently identified ancestor. No original register entry examined in this session names his parents or his birthplace. The session nevertheless produced six findings that change the research picture.

1. The Nardini descent claim is now located exactly, and its foundation is contradicted. Louis Raphael Nardini's No Man's Land: A History of El Camino Real (Pelican Publishing Co., New Orleans, 1961) makes the claim on p. 162, in the "Personalities" sketch of Henry Howard Lemoine. It traces the family to a "Francois Lemoine (LeMoyne)," a soldier at Natchitoches in 1723, whom it calls a nephew of Iberville and Bienville [N1]. The sketch gives no intervening generations and no citations. Mills's abstract of that soldier's 17 July 1736 marriage, as quoted in a 2008 dissertation, names his parents as François LeMoine and Marguerite Gentin of Amboise, in the diocese of Tours, France. He was buried on 4 January 1737, six months after the wedding [N2]. That man was not a son of any Le Moyne brother from Montreal, and he could not have fathered Charles (born about 1728–29) within that marriage. Nardini also says that St. Denis's mother "was a LeMoyne," but the Dictionary of Canadian Biography names her as Marie-Thérèse Giffard [N4].
2. The two published Mills abstracts the family uploaded have now been examined directly. Entries no. 930 (baptism, 1768) and no. 1679 (marriage, 1792) name Jean Baptiste Lemoine's parents as Charles LeMoine/Lemoine and Elisabeth/Isabelle Dupré [U1, U2]. This supports the Jean Baptiste → Carlos link. It also favors 21 February 1792 over the conflicting 1822 marriage date.
3. The 1745 Pointe Coupée census places "Etienne Le Moine, 21" and "Charles Le Moine, 16" in the household of Guillaume Le Moine dit Normand and his wife Marie Gonnard [N5]. Marie is recorded as the widow of Michel Lemoine when she married Guillaume in August 1742 [N6]. The census lists Étienne and Charles after Guillaume's own sons. This is strong circumstantial evidence that Charles was a son of Marie (Gagnard/Gonnard), and therefore probably of Michel, raised as Guillaume's stepson. The census does not state any relationship, so this is a supported hypothesis, not proof.
4. A family group sheet (author unknown) says that Mills entry no. 730, the 1754 marriage, names Charles's parents as "Michel LeMoine" and "Marie Guenard" [U3]. It also says that entry no. 3051, the 1798 burial, gives his birth as 1728 at Kaskaskia, Illinois. These are a compiler's citations, not transcriptions, but they identify exactly what the two priority records should show. If they are correct, the marriage record itself would be the primary statement of parentage, and the burial record would be the source of the Illinois birthplace.
5. Charles's own household ties point to the Guillaume/Marie family at Pointe Coupée. His first three children were born at Pointe Coupée (1755, 1758, 1760). Their godfathers included Etienne LeMoine (1755) and Simon LeMoine (1758) [U3]. Simon was Guillaume's son (age 11 in 1745) [N5].
6. No evidence was found that Charles belonged to the Canadian Le Moyne de Longueuil family. The documented children and kin of the founder, the first two barons, Iberville and Bienville give no point of attachment. The question is still not closed: a collateral or maternal connection has not been excluded, and Y-DNA testing could test it (see Next Steps).

SUMMARY OF THIS RESEARCH IN FIVE LIVES:

Charles "Carlos" Lemoine --

        Charles Lemoine (sometimes known as Carlos on the frontier between Spain and France in Louisiana/Texas) was born in 1728 or 1729  in Kaskaskia, Illinois (then part of the French Colony of Louisiana).  His parents were Michel Lemoine and Marie Gagnard (Gonnard/Joignard), both immigrants from France.  

        At his birth, Charles had at least one living older brother, 5/6 year-old Etienne.  Etienne was born in New Orleans in 1722 or 1723.  Sometime after Charles' birth, the family moved to Point Coupee, in what is still Louisiana.   Between 1722/3 and 1742, Michel and Marie had moved north from New Orleans to Kasasiia, Illinois, and then south again from Illinois to Pointe Coupee in south-central Louisiana, trasversing  approximately 1,500 miles of wilderness.

    The 560 mile trip upriver from New Orleans to Kaskaskia by boat on the Mississippi would have taken 3-4 months, while the return (downstream) trip would have taken 12 to 20 days.  Travel upstream from New Orleans to Pointe Coupee took about 10-20 days while the trip from Pointe Coupee to New Orleans was only one to two days.  From Pointe Coupee to Natchitoches Post required as estimated 3 to 5 weeks, while the downstream return trip on the Red River required approximately one to two weeks.

Some time before June, 1742, Michel died leaving Marie a widow and his two sons orphans.  In that year, the widowed Marie married Guillium Lemoine.  While Marie's two husbands had the same last name, we do not know if there was a relationship.  The records we have give the two Lemoine men different parents and different birth places in France.

        Charles was 13/14 and Etienne was 19/20, when their Mother had married Guillium Lemoine (her two husbands having the same last name).  1745, records show Charles, age 16, living in the home of his step-father, Guillaume Lemoine in Pointe Coupee.  

        Eleven years later, the family was still living in Pointe Coupee on June 4, 1754, when the 25 year-old Charles married Elizabeth Duprez, a widow from Natchitoches.  Between 1755 and 1760, three daughters were born to the couple, and baptized at Pointe Coupee.  Between 1760 and July 8, 1763, the family moved to Natchitoches where their son, Charles was baptized.  Eight years later, on May 22, 1768, their son Jean Baptist (ancestor of Henry Lemoine) was baptized in Natchitoches. 

        The family remained in Natchitoches, and Charles was 51 when his Wife, Elizabeth died and was buried "at Cane River."  Over the next 17 years, Charles' sons divided and sold much of the land Charles and Elizabaeth had accumulated.  On Sept. 28/29 of 1798, Charles died and was buried on Isle Brevelle near Natchitoches.

Michael Lemoine --

Confirmation and Method

Research Sequence Followed

1. The 1754 marriage (Mills no. 730) and the 1798 burial (no. 3051).
2. Pointe Coupée sacramental and census records.
3. Michel, Marie and Guillaume, kept separate.
4. Illinois records (Kaskaskia and Fort de Chartres).
5. The Nardini passage, its edition, its pages and its antecedents.
6. Canadian namesakes in authoritative biographies.
7. Synthesis, the conflict register and the next steps.

Evidence Categories Used

Label	Meaning in this report
Original record	A register entry, notarial act or census in its original form. None was examined directly in this session.
Published abstract	A published abstract or translation by a recognized compiler (Mills; Diocese of Baton Rouge; Barron). It is derivative but close to the original.
Scholarly secondary	Peer-reviewed or academic work interpreting records (Mills in TAG; Townes; the Dictionary of Canadian Biography).
Compiled	Family group sheets, online trees and genealogy websites. These are leads, not proof, and repeated trees are not independent.
Family-supplied	Information from Frances Jackson Freeman or the family's own papers.
Tradition	Narrative claims without documentation (Nardini; Dunn).

Literal Transcriptions

Each transcription below is reproduced as it appears in the source named, with that source's spelling and punctuation. Interpretation follows separately.

Mills abstract no. 930 (uploaded image) [U1]

"930. JEAN BAPTISTE LEMOINE May 22, 1768, baptism of Jean Baptiste, born May 19, legitimate son of Charles LeMoine and Elisabeth Dupré. Godparents: Jean Baptiste Dupré and Marie Derbanne, uncle and aunt of the infant."

Mills abstract no. 1679 (uploaded image) [U2]

"1679. JEAN BAPTISTE LEMOINE FELICITE LACAZE February 21, 1792, after one ban, marriage of Jean Baptiste Lemoine, native of this parish, son of Charles Lemoine and Isabelle Dupre . . . and . . . Felicité Lacaze, native of the parish of Opelousas, daughter of Charles Lacaze and Felicité Langlois. Witnesses: Charles Lacaze (x), Antoine Lemoine (x), Etienne Verge (x), Jacques Lacaze (x)."

Family group sheet for Charles Lemoine, page 1 (uploaded image; compiler unknown) [U3]

The image is a photographed typescript form. It was viewed on mediasvc.ancestry.com and says it is "continued on reverse"; the reverse page was not supplied. The key fields read:

Husband's full name: CHARLES LEMOINE. Birth: "4) . 1728" / "4)Kaskaskia" / "IL". Marriage: "2) 4 Jun 1754" / "Natchitoches Post" / "LA". Death: "4)28 Sep 1798" / "Isle Brevelle (Natchitoches)". Burial: "4)29 Sep 1798" / "American Cemetery". Occupation: "planter". Religion: "Catholic". Father: "2)Michel LeMoine". Mo.'s Maiden Name: "2)Marie Guenard".

Sources of information: "1)Mills NATCH 1729-1803 #723 / 2) #730 / 3) #49-50 / 4) #3051 / 5) #483 / 6) #846 / 7) #854 / 8) #930 / 9)DIO OF B.R., I, 189-190 / 10)Mills NATCH 1729-1803 #1230 / 11) #1237 / 12) #1498 / 13) #1505 / 14) #1679 / 15)1787 Census of Natchitoches / 16)Mills NATCH 1729-1803 #1030 / 17)Conv Bk 20 p26, NCH"

Wife's maiden name: BARBE ELISABETH DUPRÉ. Birth "ca Dec 1736". Baptism "3) 6 Dec 1736". Death "? 31 Dec 1789". Burial "11) 1 Jan 1780", "American Cemetery, Natchitoches". Other husbands: "1st - 1)19 Jun 1752, Jean Louis Garein". Father "3)Jacques Dupré". Mother's maiden name "3)Anne Marie Philippe".

Children listed on page 1:

Child	Birth	Baptism and godparents	Other events
Geneviève	"9)ca Oct 1755", Pointe Coupée Post	"9) 1 Nov 1755; GP: Etienne LeMoine & Geneviève Mayeux"	Death/burial "10)22 Oct 1777?", Natchitoches Post
Perrine	"9) 4 Nov 1758", Pointe Coupée Post	"9)19 Nov 1758; GP: Simon LeMoine & Perrine LaCour"	Death/burial "10)22 Oct 1779?", Natchitoches Post
Marie Louise	"9)23 Nov 1760", Pointe Coupée Post	"9) 7 Dec 1760; GP: Antoine Patin & Marie Louise Marine"	Married "16)27 Jan 1777" Jean Baptiste Massip
Charles	"ca Jul 1763", Natchitoches Post	"5) 8 Jul 1763; GP: Remy Poissot & Anne Marie Philippe"	Married "18)17 Sep 1792" Marie Jeanne LeBrun
Antoine	"7)14 Dec 1765", Natchitoches Post	"7)29 Dec 1765; GP: J. B. Gonet & Marie Anne Poissot"	Married "19)19 Feb 1797" Geneviève Bellegarde
Jean Baptiste	"8)19 May 1768", Natchitoches Post	"9)22 May 1765; GP: J. B. Dupré & Marie de l'I. Derbanne" [sic: 1765 for 1768]	Married "14)21 Feb 1792" Felicité LaCase
(seventh row, cut off)	"15) ca 1769", Natchitoches Post	Not visible	Not visible

Interpretation:

• The sheet says that entry no. 730 (the marriage) is its source for Charles's parents. It says that entry no. 3051 (the burial) is its source for the 1728 Kaskaskia birth.
• The compiler gives sources 18 and 19 for the marriages of Charles Jr. and Antoine, but those sources were on the reverse page, which was not supplied.
• The burial year "1789" is almost certainly a typing error for 1779/1780. The baptism year "1765" for Jean Baptiste conflicts with abstract no. 930, which gives 1768.

1745 Pointe Coupée census (Barron 1978 edition, transcribed by Louisiana Lineage) [N5]

"Guillaume Le Moine, called Normand, 47 / Marie Gonnard, wife, 42 / Louis Le Moine, 24 / Simon Le Moine, 11 / J. Bte. Le Moine, 4 / Etienne Le Moine, 21 / Charles Le Moine, 16 / Toinette and Francoise Lemoine of & and 5 yrs."

The "&" is reproduced as it appears in my extracted text of the web page. It may be a garbled "8", and the page should be checked.

Guillaume–Marie marriage, 1742 (DOBR vol. 1, pp. 74 and 110, as quoted on WikiTree) [N6]

"Marie Gagnard (Jean and Francois Paudrie) native of St. Erbilon, Diocese of Nantes, Brittany, France, widow of Michel Lemoine m. 21 Aug. 1742 Guillaume Lemoine (Jacques Lemoine and Jeanne Madre) native of Le Havre de Grace, Parish of Notre Dame, Diocese of Rouen, Normandy, France, 'dit' LeNorman, widower of Marie L'Ete wit. Jean Baptiste Brouchard; Jean Baptiste Lotiere; Martin Nantier (PCP-2, 21) also (PCP-1,41)"

Interpretation:

• "St. Erbilon" is very probably Saint-Herblon, in the diocese of Nantes. In this entry it is Marie's native place. It is not evidence for the place of any marriage to Michel. The brief's "St-Erbillon, Bretagne" marriage-place string may derive from this birthplace.
• "Widower of Marie L'Ete" does not match the New Orleans marriage to Marie Sanmerine [S2]. This needs checking against the abstract.

Diocese of Baton Rouge abstracts naming Marie as Guillaume's wife (via Louisiana Lineage) [N8]

No. 1406: "Louis Bouchard (Louis & Marie Jeanne Lemoine) bn. not given, bt. 14 March 1745, spo. Guillaume Lemoins & Marie Garnar, wife of Guillaume Lemoins"; Record: PCP-1, 57 also PCP-2, part 1, 38.

No. 1407: "Marie Bouchard (Louis & Marie Jeanne Lemoine) bt. 19 April 1747, bn. not given, spo. Antoine Sarazin & Marie Goignard"; Record: PCP-1, 76.

No. 2871: "Marie LaFleur (Joseph & Antoinette Lemoine) bn. 2 March omit, bt. 4 March 1754, spo. Guillaume Lemoine & Marie Goynard"; Record: PCP-1, 137 also PCP-2, part 1, 99.

These entries document further spellings of her name (Garnar, Goignard, Goynard) alongside Gagnard, Gonnard, Gognard, Joignard and Guenard.

Mills abstract no. 8 (1736), as quoted by Townes, footnote 16 [N2]

"Marriage, July 17, 1736, Natchitoches, after publication of bans, Francois LeMoine, soldier, dit La Vidette, age 40, son of Francois LeMoine and Marguerite Gentin of the town of Amboise, diocese of Tours, and Jeanne Victoria Garcie, previously of the Spanish post of Adays, living two years in this parish, aged 13, daughter of Pierre Garcie, soldier, and of Marie Joseph Condee, Witness: Pierre Marets de la Tour..."

Townes's footnote 25 cites the burial of "François Le Moine dit La Vidette Boudin, January 4, 1737" (Mills, p. 17). Townes's main text misdates the marriage to 1763; his footnote's 1736 is the date taken from the abstract.

Nardini, No Man's Land (1961) [N1]

Page numbers below follow the page markers in the Project Gutenberg transcription of the 1961 Pelican edition. They should be confirmed against a physical copy or the 1999 Pelican reprint before formal citation.

• p. 27, among inhabitants of the Natchitoches area: "...Francois Berry, soldier; Francois Lemoine, soldier; Estinne LeRoy, soldier;..."
• p. 57: "...Sieur Badin, farmer, trader and storekeeper; Francois Lemoine, soldier in love with Victoria Emanuella Garcia; Sieur Jambare, doctor."
• p. 59: "In July of the same year Francois Lemoine married Victoria Manuella Garcia. And so ... the Arroyo Honda barrier came down." The year in context is 1735.
• p. 65: "Another hospitable friend, Francois Lemoine, was a cousin of Louis Juchereau de St. Denis of the Lemoyne family as were Iberville and Bienville. This young French soldier had married Victoria Emmanuella Garcia, the daughter of a Spanish sergeant of the Presidio at Los Adais."
• Headnote to the "Personalities" section (p. 153): "(The names with stars are descended from early ancestors mentioned in the text or listed in the early records of El Camino Real area)"
• p. 162:

"Henry Howard Lemoine★

Henry Howard Lemoine, Planter and Stockman, Route 2 Natchitoches at Clarence, La., wed Iola Jackson of Coushatta, La. Their children are: Linda Gail and Henry Howard, Jr. Both attend St. Mary's School at Natchitoches, La. The Lemoine Family of the Ark.-La.-Tex. area had its beginning with Francois Lemoine (LeMoyne)—the name being spelled both ways on very early Natchitoches records. This family is that of Iberville and Bienville who were brothers of the LeMoyne family. Francois Lemoine being a nephew, just as was Louis Juchereau De St. Denis whose mother was a LeMoyne or Lemoine. Francois Lemoine is listed as a soldier in Natchitoches in 1723. Thus Henry Howard Lemoine, Sr. represents a 9th generation descendant in our Natchitoches-El Camino Real area."

Milton Dunn, "History of Natchitoches" (1920) [N3]

"...it is recounted that Francois Le Moyne, one of St. Denys' soldiers married Juniata Victoria Garcia, a Spanish lady of Los Adayes."

Source: Louisiana Historical Quarterly 3, no. 1 (1920): 26–56. This is an earlier telling of the Garcia romance. It spells the name "Le Moyne" but makes no claim of kinship with Iberville.

The Nardini Claim Evaluated

What Nardini Claims

Element	Nardini's statement	Page
Edition	No Man's Land: A History of El Camino Real, © 1961 by Louis R. Nardini; Pelican Publishing Co., New Orleans; printed by American Printing Co. Reprinted by Pelican in 1999.	Title page
Progenitor	"Francois Lemoine (LeMoyne)," soldier at Natchitoches in 1723	162 (also 27)
Canadian link	"This family is that of Iberville and Bienville ... Francois Lemoine being a nephew"	162
Supporting analogy	St. Denis's mother "was a LeMoyne or Lemoine"	162
Generations	Henry Howard Lemoine, Sr. is a "9th generation descendant"	162
Intervening lineage	None given	—
References	None given in the sketch; no notes for these passages	—
Marriage	François married Victoria Garcia in July 1735	59, 65

Freeman's 2021 bibliography reports this claim as Henry Jr. being a "10th generation descendant of Francois LeMoyne" [S4]. That matches Nardini's "9th generation" for Henry Sr. Freeman also notes that Nardini was a friend of Howard Henry Lemoine, Sr., and that "the accuracy of some of his work has been questioned" [S4]. The sketch reads as a family-supplied or author-composed tradition printed in 1961. It is not a documented descent.

Tests Applied

1. Identity of Nardini's François. Mills's abstract no. 8, as quoted by Townes, identifies the soldier who married Victoria Garcia as François LeMoine dit La Vidette. He was aged 40 in 1736, a native of Amboise in Touraine, and the son of François LeMoine and Marguerite Gentin [N2]. A man born in France about 1696 to those parents was not the son of any of the Le Moyne brothers, who were born at Montreal between 1656 and 1680 [S18, S19]. The nephew claim is contradicted.
2. Possibility of fatherhood. François died about 4 January 1737, six months after his marriage, and his widow remarried in 1738 [N2]. Charles was born about 1728–29 [U3, N5]. There is no evidence of a child of the Garcia marriage. A child born before the marriage would need a separate record, and none is known. François as Charles's father is contradicted within the marriage, and is unsupported in any other way.
3. St. Denis's mother. The Dictionary of Canadian Biography names Louis Juchereau de Saint-Denis's parents as Nicolas Juchereau de Saint-Denis and Marie-Thérèse Giffard. It says only that he was related to Iberville "by marriage" [N4]. Nardini's premise is contradicted.
4. Generation count. Counting the family-supplied line from Charles (about 1729) to Henry Sr. (1913) gives Henry Sr. as the sixth generation, or the seventh if Michel is added. Nardini's "9th" would require more generations between 1723 and 1913 than the documented line allows. The count is inconsistent with the line the family has documented.
5. Spelling argument. That "Lemoine" and "LeMoyne" were used interchangeably in early records is true and unremarkable. Spelling variation is not evidence of kinship.

Conclusion on Nardini

The specific lineage Nardini proposed — a Le Moyne nephew of Iberville named François who founded the Natchitoches Lemoines — is contradicted by the records. The claim appears to merge two unrelated men named Lemoine at Natchitoches: the Amboise soldier who died in 1737, and Charles, who married there in 1754. Freeman's 2021 note anticipated this "two men or one" confusion [S4]. Disproving Nardini does not, by itself, disprove every possible Canadian kinship.

Charles "Carlos" Lemoine: Evidence Analysis

What Is Supported

• Marriage. Charles married Barbe Elisabeth Dupré, the widow of Jean Louis Garein, at Natchitoches on 4 June 1754. This rests on a precise published citation (Mills no. 730) in Mills's peer-reviewed TAG article [S1] and on the family sheet [U3]. The text of the abstract itself was not obtained.
• Children and residence. Daughters were born at Pointe Coupée in 1755, 1758 and 1760, and sons at Natchitoches from 1763 [U3]. He was a neighbor of Remy Poissot in the 1766 census [N11]. He filed land petitions (requêtes) in 1782 and 1787 [N11]. He later moved to Isle Brevelle [N11] and owned the "24-Mile Ferry" [N9]. Land documents name "Charles Le Moine, his father" (Doc. 2321, 1791) and "his father Charles LeMoine Sr." (Doc. 2892, 1793) [N9, N10].
• Death. He died on 28 September 1798 and was buried the next day (Mills no. 3051, cited by the family sheet) [U3].
• His son Jean Baptiste. Born 19 May 1768 and baptized 22 May 1768 [U1]. Married Felicité Lacaze on 21 February 1792 [U2].

Name

The available abstracts and documents call him "Charles." "Carlos" is the Spanish-period form, and "Francois" is a family-supplied middle name. None of the documents examined uses "Francois" for him. This does not disprove the middle name.

Parentage: Competing Hypotheses

Hypothesis	Evidence for	Evidence against or gaps	Status
A. Son of Michel Lemoine and Marie Gagnard/Gonnard/Joignard	The family sheet says no. 730 names "Michel LeMoine" and "Marie Guenard" [U3]. Charles, age 16, lives with Marie and her second husband in 1745 [N5]. Marie is "widow of Michel Lemoine" in 1742 [N6]. Charles and Étienne are listed apart from Guillaume's own sons [N5]. Étienne LeMoine is godfather to Charles's first child [U3]. The Eaddy compilation agrees, but cites nothing [S3].	The text of no. 730 has not been seen. No baptism of Charles has been found. The census states no relationships. Online trees derive from one another.	Supported (circumstantial). Unproved pending no. 730.
B. Son of Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand (by Marie Sanmerine or another wife)	He lived in Guillaume's household in 1745 [N5]. Charles's birth (about 1729) falls within Guillaume's marriage to Sanmerine, 1725–1741 [S2]. Geni assigns Étienne and Charles to Guillaume [N17].	Louisiana Lineage's list of Guillaume's children omits Charles [S2]. Étienne (about 1724) predates the 1725 marriage. The family sheet's no. 730 citation names Michel. Census order sets Charles apart. Geni gives no sources.	Unresolved. Less favored than A.
C. Son of Nardini's François Lemoine (Amboise soldier)	Nardini's 1961 tradition [N1]	Married 1736, died 1737 [N2]; no child known; Amboise origin	Contradicted
D. Member of the Canadian Le Moyne family (any route)	Family tradition; similar spelling	No documented point of attachment; Nardini's route contradicted	No evidence; not excluded
E. Other unknown parents	—	No record suggests any	Open, untested

Version 2 status: Hypothesis A is Confirmed by the original 1754 marriage entry [F1]. Hypothesis B is Contradicted as to biological fatherhood (Guillaume was a stepfather). Hypotheses C and D are Contradicted for the direct paternal line. Hypothesis E is no longer needed.

Birthplace: Competing Claims

Claim	Basis	Assessment
Kaskaskia, Illinois, 1728	Family sheet, citing the burial no. 3051 [U3]. West's Atlas of Louisiana Surnames (1986): "Charles Lemoine of Kaskaskia, Illinois" [N12, N13]	Possibly from the burial record itself. Unverified. West's account is probably derived from Mills and is not independent.
Prairie du Rocher / Fort de Chartres, 1729	The family-supplied place string; online trees	No source found. Guillaume, not Michel, has documented Kaskaskia and Fort de Chartres records in 1722–23 [S2]. The detail may have migrated to Charles from Guillaume.
Pointe Coupée, about 1729	WikiTree tag [S7]; Michel and Marie lived there before 1742 [N6, N7]	Plausible, but no baptism found. Pointe Coupée registers before the 1730s are sparse.
New Orleans	No direct claim (Étienne is said to have been born there in 1723/24)	Untested for Charles

Version 2 status: The 1754 marriage states "natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia" [F1]. Kaskaskia is now Supported as his birthplace by his own statement. The other places are Contradicted. No baptism has been found; the abridged Kaskaskia transcript on FamilySearch has no baptisms after about 1722 [F4].

Belting's Kaskaskia under the French Regime (1948) was searched in full text. It contains no Michel, Guillaume or Charles Lemoine; the only Le Moines in it are Detroit-related [N14]. This is a negative result for a secondary source only. The original Kaskaskia registers and the Kaskaskia Manuscripts have not been searched.

Separate Timelines for Key Individuals  -- 

(Charles Lemoine, Michel Lemoine, Guillaume Lemoine, Marie Gagnard Lemoine, Etienne Lemoine, Francois Lemoine dit La Vidette) To establish relationships.

Charles "Carlos" Lemoine

Date	Event	Source	Category
ca. 1728–29	Birth (Kaskaskia per the sheet, citing no. 3051; age 16 in 1745). Version 2: "natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia" in the original 1754 marriage	U3; N5; F1	Compiled; published census; original record
1745	"Charles Le Moine, 16" in Guillaume's household, Pointe Coupée	N5	Published census transcription
4 Jun 1754	Marriage to Elisabeth Duprez, widow of "la verdure [?]," Natchitoches (Mills no. 730). Parents named as the late Michel Le Moine and Marie Guenard	S1; U3; F1	Original record (examined, version 2)
1755–1760	Three daughters baptized at Pointe Coupée (DOBR I, 189–190)	U3	Compiled citing published abstracts
8 Jul 1763	Son Charles baptized at Natchitoches	U3	Compiled
1766	Census: neighbor of Remy Poissot	N11	Scholarly secondary
22 May 1768	Son Jean Baptiste baptized (Mills no. 930)	U1; F2	Published abstract; original record (examined, version 2)
1 Jan 1780	Wife buried "at Cane River"	S1; U3	Scholarly secondary
1782, 1787	Land petitions (requêtes)	N11	Scholarly secondary
1791, 1793	Sons sell land given by "Charles Le Moine, his father"	N9; N10	Researcher's notes on originals
21 Feb 1792	Son Jean Baptiste marries (Mills no. 1679)	U2	Published abstract (image examined)
28/29 Sep 1798	Death at Isle Brevelle; burial (Mills no. 3051)	U3	Compiled

Michel Lemoine

Date	Event	Source	Category
4 Nov 1691	Birth at Lanrelas (family-supplied); Geneanet gives about 1703	Brief §3; S11	Family-supplied; compiled
1712 / 1722 / before 1729	Marriage to Marie, competing dates	Brief §3	Family-supplied
ca. 1723–24	Son Étienne born (New Orleans per trees)	S3; N5 (age 21 in 1745)	Compiled; census-implied
Jul 1742	Death at Pointe Coupée	S3; N7	Compiled; parish history
Aug 1742	Marie named as "widow of Michel Lemoine"	N6	Published abstract, via WikiTree

Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand

Date	Event	Source
ca. 1698	Birth at Le Havre, son of Jacques Lemoine and Jeanne Madre (age 47 in 1745)	N5; N6
28 Apr 1722	Kaskaskia marriage contract, Lemoine–Ledoux (identity "cannot be proven 100%")	S2
17 May 1723	Notarial act at Fort de Chartres	S2
4 Apr 1725	Married Marie Sanmerine, New Orleans	S2
15 Nov 1741	Marie Sanmerine dies	S2
10/21 Aug 1742	Married Marie Gagnard, widow of Michel	N6; S2
1745	Census head of household; Étienne and Charles present	N5
1745–1754	Sponsor with Marie at Pointe Coupée baptisms	N8
ca. 1771	Death (per Louisiana Lineage page title)	S2

Étienne Lemoine

Date	Event	Source
1723 or 1724	Birth (New Orleans per trees; age 21 in 1745)	S3; N5
1745	In Guillaume's household	N5
1 Nov 1755	Godfather of Charles's daughter Geneviève, Pointe Coupée	U3
1763	Death (family-supplied)	Brief §3

Marie Gagnard / Gonnard / Joignard

Date	Event	Source
ca. 1703	Birth at "St. Erbilon" (Saint-Herblon), diocese of Nantes, daughter of Jean Gagnard and Françoise Paudrie (age 42 in 1745)	N6; N5
before 1742	Married Michel Lemoine	N6
1742	Married Guillaume Lemoine as Michel's widow	N6
6/7 Sep 1761	Death, then burial; Guillaume called "Sieur Lemoine"	S2

François LeMoine dit La Vidette (Nardini's François)

Date	Event	Source
ca. 1696	Birth at Amboise, son of François LeMoine and Marguerite Gentin (age 40 in 1736)	N2
1722/1723	Listed as a soldier at Natchitoches	N1
17 Jul 1736	Married Jeanne Victoria Garcie (Mills no. 8)	N2
4 Jan 1737	Burial (Mills, p. 17)	N2
14 Apr 1738	His widow marries Louis La Malathie	N2

Canadian Namesakes (Not Merged)

Person	Dates	Key facts	Source
Charles Le Moyne de Longueuil et de Châteauguay	1626–1685	Born at Dieppe; founder of the family; father of Iberville and Bienville	S18; S23
Charles Le Moyne, first Baron de Longueuil	1656–1729	The founder's eldest son	S20 (as father)
Charles Le Moyne, second Baron de Longueuil	1687–1755	Son of the first Baron and Claude-Élisabeth Souart d'Adoucourt. Married 29 Apr 1730. Eighteen children born 1721–1739, of whom six survived him (two sons who were officers, four daughters; unnamed in the DCB)	S20
Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville	1661–1706	Son of the founder and Catherine Thierry; his son François-Jean was born in 1705 at La Rochelle	S19
François Le Moyne de Bienville	—	Iberville's brother; served in the 1690 expedition	S19
Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Bienville	1680–1767	Louisiana governor; uncle of the second Baron	S20
Charles "Carlos" Lemoine	ca. 1729–1798	Natchitoches; origins unresolved	This report

Note that the second Baron's marriage date of 1730, which the DCB says produced children "between 1721 and 1739," is an internal tension in the DCB entry. It should not be read as placing an extra child in Louisiana. No child of the second Baron is shown in Louisiana or Natchitoches. The DCB places the Baron himself in Louisiana in 1739, on the Chickasaw campaign [S20]. That is a historical coincidence, not a link to Charles, who was then about ten and in Pointe Coupée.

Conflict Register

No.	Conflict	Versions	Assessment
C1	Charles's birthplace	Kaskaskia (sheet citing no. 3051; West); Prairie du Rocher/Fort de Chartres (family string); Pointe Coupée (WikiTree)	Unresolved. Check no. 3051.
C2	Charles's birth year	1728 (sheet); 1729 (trees; age 69 at death); about 1728–29 (age 16 in 1745)	Compatible within a year
C3	Charles's father	Michel (sheet citing no. 730; Eaddy; WikiTree); Guillaume (Geni); Nardini's François	François contradicted; Michel supported; Guillaume unresolved
C4	Mother's surname	Guenard, Gagnard, Gognard, Gonnard, Garnar, Goignard, Goynard, Joignard, Guignard, Gaynard	Probably variant spellings of one woman. Keep all of them.
C5	Marie's parents	Jean Gagnard and Françoise Paudrie (DOBR) vs. "Jean Joignard and Françoise" (Geneanet)	Probably compatible. DOBR is preferred.
C6	Date of the Guillaume–Marie marriage	21 Aug 1742 (DOBR via WikiTree) vs. 10 Aug 1742 (Louisiana Lineage)	Check the DOBR page
C7	Guillaume's previous wife	"widower of Marie L'Ete" (1742 abstract) vs. Marie Sanmerine (1725 marriage)	Unresolved; possibly a variant or a misreading
C8	Michel's birth	1691 Lanrelas vs. about 1703	Unresolved; no record examined
C9	Michel–Marie marriage	1712, 1722, before 1729, or ranges	Not separate events. Marie, born about 1703, makes 1712 implausible.
C10	Étienne's birth	1723 vs. 1724	Age 21 in 1745 fits either
C11	Louis Lemoine's age	24 in the 1745 census (born about 1721) vs. 1731 in trees	Unresolved; affects which of Guillaume's wives was his mother
C12	Date of the Nardini marriage	July 1735 (Nardini) vs. 17 July 1736 (Mills no. 8)	Mills is preferred
C13	Nardini's generation count	Henry Sr. "9th" vs. about 6–7 in the documented line	Nardini is inconsistent
C14	Barbe Elisabeth's death	"? 31 Dec 1789" (sheet) vs. burial 1 Jan 1780	1789 is a typing error. The 31 Dec 1779 death date is not independently proved.
C15	Jean Baptiste's baptism	22 May 1768 (no. 930) vs. "22 May 1765" (sheet)	1768 is preferred
C16	Jean Baptiste's marriage	21 Feb 1792 (no. 1679) vs. 22 Jun 1822 (family entry)	1792 is documented. The 1822 date may be a different event or an error.
C17	Marie Louise Lemoine	Born 1760, married J. B. Massip 1777 (sheet) vs. born 1770 at Pointe Coupée, married P. Rachal 1787 (genealogy.com)	Possibly two different women or a conflation. Unresolved.
C18	Geneviève and Perrine	Both buried "22 Oct," in 1777 and 1779 (sheet, both with question marks)	Possible copying error. Check nos. 1230 and 1237.
C19	Howard/Henry name order; 1945 vs. 1946 marriage	Carried from the brief	Unchanged
C20	Date of the soldier's marriage in Townes	1763 in Townes's text vs. 1736 in his footnote	The footnote follows the abstract
C1 (v2)	Charles's birthplace	The original 1754 marriage gives the parish of Kaskaskia [F1]	Resolved in favor of Kaskaskia, as his own statement. Not proved by a baptism.
C3 (v2)	Charles's father	The original 1754 marriage names the late Michel Le Moine [F1]	Resolved: Michel. Guillaume was a stepfather. FamilySearch Tree LCPP-927 still shows Guillaume and Marie L'Este Sanmerine [F5].
C8 (v2)	Michel's birthplace	"bresse" in F1 (Bresse or Brest?) vs. Lanrelas, Brittany (family-supplied) vs. Geneanet's birth about 1703	Unresolved. The Lanrelas identification is now in tension with F1.
C21	Elisabeth Dupré's first husband	Jean Louis Garein (Mills, TAG, via the brief [S1]) vs. "la verdure [?]" (F1)	Probably compatible, if La Verdure was Garein's dit name. Unproved.
C22	Charles's death date	28 Sep 1798, buried 29 Sep (sheet citing no. 3051) vs. 20 Sep 1798 (FamilySearch Tree LCPP-927)	Unresolved until no. 3051 or the original is read. The sheet's citation is preferred.
C23	Charles's parents in FamilySearch Tree	Guillaume and Marie L'Este Sanmerine [F5] vs. Michel and Marie Guenard [F1]	The tree is contradicted by the original record. A correction with the F1 citation is recommended (with the user's approval).

Source Log

Code	Source	Category	Accessed	Used for	Reliability notes
U1	Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803, abstract no. 930 (user image)	Published abstract	Image examined 14 Nov 2026	Jean Baptiste baptism	High for content; the original register was not seen
U2	Same, abstract no. 1679 (user image)	Published abstract	Examined	Jean Baptiste marriage	High
U3	Family group sheet, Charles Lemoine, p. 1 (user image)	Compiled	Examined	Citations for nos. 730 and 3051; children	Compiler unknown; reverse page missing
U4	Obituary of H. H. Lemoine Sr., Alexandria Town Talk (user image)	Newspaper	Examined	Henry Sr. → Henry Jr.	High for relationships
U5	Gravestone of Henry H. 1913–1977 and Iola J. 1921–1979 (user image)	Memorial	Examined	Henry Sr.'s dates	High
N1	Nardini, No Man's Land (1961), Project Gutenberg	Tradition / local history	Full text searched	The Canadian claim	No citations for this claim
N2	Townes, Invisible Lines (TCU dissertation, 2008)	Scholarly secondary quoting a Mills abstract	Full text	Identity of the 1736 François	The abstract is quoted verbatim in a footnote
N3	Dunn, "History of Natchitoches" (LHQ, 1920)	Tradition	Full text	An earlier version of the story	No kinship claim
N4	DCB, Juchereau de Saint-Denis	Scholarly	Fetched	St. Denis's mother	High
N5	Pointe Coupée 1745 census (Louisiana Lineage, after Barron 1978)	Published census transcription	Fetched	The Guillaume household	Good; relationships not stated
N6	WikiTree Lemoine-31, quoting DOBR vol. 1, pp. 74 and 110	Compiled, quoting a published abstract	Fetched	The 1742 marriage	Quote to be checked against DOBR
N7	One Hundred Years of Bayou des Glaises (archive.org)	Parish history	Fetched	Death of Michel, 1742	Secondary; no citation
N8	Louisiana Lineage, Sources page	Compiled, quoting DOBR	Fetched	Marie as sponsor	Good
N9–N10	Mills, research notes (Historic Pathways)	Researcher's notes on originals	Fetched	Land records	High
N11	Caddo Archeology Journal 34 (2024)	Scholarly secondary	Fetched	Land, 1766 census	Good
N12–N13	West, Atlas of Louisiana Surnames (1986), via Forebears and Acadians in Gray	Secondary	Snippets	Kaskaskia claim	Derivative
N14	Belting, Kaskaskia under the French Regime (1948)	Scholarly secondary	Full text searched	Negative result	—
N16	Genealogy.com, Rachal descendants	Compiled	Snippet	Conflict C17	Low
N17	Geni, Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand	Compiled	Snippet	Conflation evidence	Low
S1–S24	Carried from the original brief	Various	Selected items refetched	See the brief	See the brief
F1	Natchitoches register, marriage of Charles Le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 Jun 1754, DGS 8130851, image 126	Original record (microfilm image)	Examined on FamilySearch, 14 Nov 2026	Charles's parents and birthplace	High. Clear hand; a few words uncertain
F2	Same register, baptism of Jean Baptiste, 22 May 1768, DGS 8130851, image 158	Original record	Examined	Jean Baptiste → Charles	High for names; the page is badly damaged
F3	FamilySearch catalog, St. François (Natchitoches) "Parish registers, 1729–1796"	Catalog	Examined	Coverage of the film	—
F4	Kaskaskia abridged transcript (DGS 8130870, item 3) and "Registres paroissiaux, 1720–1734" (DGS 8105965)	Copy of original records / catalog	Item 3 examined; DGS 8105965 not examined	Search for Charles's baptism and Michel's marriage	No baptisms after about 1722 in item 3
F5	FamilySearch Family Tree LCPP-927	Compiled (collaborative tree)	Viewed	Current tree claims	Low; one source; contradicted on parents
F6	FamilySearch indexes, 1810 and 1820 censuses, Natchitoches	Index	Viewed	Later generation	Images not examined
F7	Natchitoches conveyance records and miscellaneous archive records (catalog)	Catalog	Image groups restricted	Possible succession or marriage contract	Inaccessible online
F8	FamilySearch catalog, Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803	Catalog	Viewed	Location of the book	Book and microfiche only
F9	FamilySearch catalog, Pointe Coupée church records	Catalog	Viewed	Pointe Coupée registers	Book only (De Ville)

Unsuccessful Searches and Inaccessible Sources

Target	Where searched	Result	Why it matters / next route
Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803, text of nos. 730 and 3051	Internet Archive full-text and metadata searches; web searches for phrases	Not online; the book is in print or library form only	The key evidence. Consult the FHL copy (catalog call number reported in prior research as 976.365 V26m; verify), a library copy, or the original register (Immaculate Conception, Natchitoches; Diocese of Alexandria archives).
Original 1754 marriage register entry	Not online in any open collection found	Inaccessible here	Register images may exist on FamilySearch microfilm (restricted viewing)
Baptism of Charles, about 1728–29	Searches of Pointe Coupée, New Orleans and Kaskaskia indexes	None found	Pointe Coupée registers before about 1736 may be lost. Check the Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records vol. 1 and the Kaskaskia registers.
Michel's arrival record	Web searches	Not found	Ask the family for the source; check the Louisiana passenger lists of 1718–1724 (Conrad, First Families of Louisiana).
Michel's 1742 burial entry	Web searches; Louisiana Lineage sources	Not found online	DOBR vol. 1
Charles and Michel in Illinois	Belting (full text); web	No hits	Kaskaskia Manuscripts; Brown & Dean, Village of Chartres
Supporting references for Nardini	Whole book	None for this claim	—
Charles named in the Louisiana Lineage Sources page	Fetched page	No Michel, Charles or Étienne entries	—
Diocese of Baton Rouge vol. 1, pp. 189–190	Not online	Print only	Library or FHL copy
Original 1754 marriage (version 2)	FamilySearch, DGS 8130851	Found and transcribed [F1]	—
Original 1798 burial (version 2)	FamilySearch catalog and DGS 8130851	Not found. The film's burials end in 1791, and no 1792–1803 Natchitoches burial register was found online.	The Diocese of Alexandria archives (Immaculate Conception, Natchitoches), or Mills no. 3051 in a library copy
Charles's baptism, Kaskaskia, about 1728–29 (version 2)	FamilySearch DGS 8130870, item 3	The surviving baptisms in this copy end about 1722	Look for other Kaskaskia baptism registers (the originals are reported to be held by the Diocese of Belleville, and a Mormon-filmed or Illinois State Archives copy may exist)
Natchitoches conveyance and colonial archive films (version 2)	FamilySearch	Restricted ("Unable to Display Image Group")	Try at a FamilySearch Center or affiliate library

Conclusions 

1. MILLS WAS RIGHT -- The original 4 June 1754 marriage register entry names Charles's parents as the late Michel Le Moine, a native of "bresse," and Marie Guenard, a native of Nantes. It names his birthplace as the parish of Kaskaskia in the Illinois Country [F1]. Michel and Marie are now the documented parents of Charles, and Kaskaskia is his documented birthplace as he stated it.  
2. Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand was Charles's stepfather from 1742. The FamilySearch Tree's attachment of Charles to Guillaume and Marie L'Este Sanmerine is contradicted [F5].
3. The line from Jean Baptiste to Charles is Confirmed by the original 1768 baptism [F2].
4. Direct male-line descent from the Canadian Le Moyne de Longueuil family is contradicted on the documents: Charles's father was French-born. Nardini's chain was already contradicted. No other Canadian route has any supporting evidence.
5. Charles "Carlos" is no longer the upper confidence boundary for the line. Michel Le Moine and Marie Guenard/Gagnard are now the earliest documented generation. Michel's own origins (Bresse or Brest, and the Lanrelas claim) are the new frontier.

Next Steps 

There is one NEXT STEP that stands above all the rest: 

1. Y-DNA testing  of J. Sean Lemoine or his son. Compare the results with documented male-line descendants of Guillaume's sons (the Avoyelles Lemoines) and with documented Le Moyne de Longueuil male line in surname projects. - 
2. A match with Guillaume's line would support Hypothesis B (Guillaume as father). - 
3. No match with Guillaume's line would be consistent with Michel as father. - 
4. OR depending on the details of the match we might discover that Michel and Guillaume were related.
5. A match with a documented Le Moyne de Longueuil male line would revive the Canadian question.

References

U1. Elizabeth Shown Mills, Natchitoches, 1729–1803: Abstracts of the Catholic Church Registers of the French and Spanish Post of St. Jean Baptiste des Natchitoches (New Orleans: Polyanthos, 1977), abstract no. 930. User-supplied image, examined 14 November 2026.

U2. Mills, same work, abstract no. 1679. User-supplied image.

U3. Family group sheet, "Charles Lemoine," page 1, compiler unknown; image viewed on mediasvc.ancestry.com. User-supplied.

U4. Obituary of H. H. Lemoine Sr., Alexandria Town Talk, 1977. User-supplied image.

U5. Gravestone, Henry H. Lemoine 1913–1977 and Iola J. 1921–1979. User-supplied image.

N1. Louis Raphael Nardini, No Man's Land: A History of El Camino Real (New Orleans: Pelican Publishing Co., 1961), pp. 27, 57, 59, 65, 153, 162. Project Gutenberg eBook 55055: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/55055 ; HTML with page markers: https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/55055/pg55055-images.html

N2. J. Edward Townes, "Invisible Lines: The Life and Death of a Borderland" (PhD diss., Texas Christian University, 2008), p. 111 nn. 16 and 25: https://repository.tcu.edu/bitstream/handle/116099117/4109/Townes.pdf?sequence=1

N3. Milton Dunn, "History of Natchitoches," Louisiana Historical Quarterly 3, no. 1 (1920): 26–56, via Louisiana Anthology: https://louisiana-anthology.org/texts/dunn-m/dunn--history_of_natchitoches.html

N4. Dictionary of Canadian Biography, "Juchereau de Saint-Denis, Louis": http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/juchereau_de_saint_denis_louis_3E.html

N5. Louisiana Lineage, "Pointe Coupee 1745 Census": https://louisianalineage.com/pc1745cen.htm

N6. WikiTree, Guillaume Lemoine (Lemoine-31), quoting Diocese of Baton Rouge, Catholic Church Records vol. 1, pp. 74 and 110: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lemoine-31

N7. One Hundred Years of Bayou des Glaises (parish history), Internet Archive: https://archive.org/stream/onehundredyearso00dant/onehundredyearso00dant_djvu.txt

N8. Louisiana Lineage, Sources (entries 1406, 1407, 2871): https://louisianalineage.com/sources.htm

N9. Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Rivière aux Cannes and Isle Brevelle Land Transactions," research notes: https://historicpathways.com/download/LANDRiviereAuxCanesIsleBrevelleSLASHresearchnotes.pdf

N10. Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Jean Baptiste Antÿ Sr.," research notes: https://www.historicpathways.com/download/BaptisteAntySLASHresearchnotes.pdf

N11. "Migration, Relocation, or Removal: The Natchitoches Indians, 1760s to 1859," Caddo Archeology Journal 34 (2024): http://caddoconference.org/library/CAJ34_2024.pdf

N12. Forebears, "Lemoine Surname," quoting Robert C. West, An Atlas of Louisiana Surnames of French and Spanish Origin (1986), pp. 102–103: https://forebears.io/surnames/lemoine

N13. Acadians in Gray, "Family Histories" (Lemoine, citing West): http://www.acadiansingray.com/Family%20histories%202.htm

N14. Natalia Maree Belting, Kaskaskia under the French Regime (1948), Internet Archive: https://ia801609.us.archive.org/13/items/kaskaskiaunderfr00belt/kaskaskiaunderfr00belt.pdf

N15. Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Jeannot Mulon dit LeBrun": https://historicpathways.com/download/jeanmulon.pdf

N16. Genealogy.com, "Descendants of Pierre Rachal dit St. Denis": https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/f/o/s/Jeremy-Foster-Louisiana/GENE4-0003.html

N17. Geni, "Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand": https://www.geni.com/people/Guillaume-Lemoine-dit-Normand/6000000009063443287

N18. Find a Grave, Guillaume Lemoine, memorial 127409754: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127409754/guillaume-lemoine

N19. Eaddy, "Lemoine Family History" (Avoyelles): https://www.eaddy.biz/html/lemfamhi.htm

S1. Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Deliberate Fraud and Mangled Evidence," The American Genealogist 72 (1997): https://www.historicpathways.com/download/delibphil.pdf

S2. Louisiana Lineage, "What do we know about Guillaume Lemoine (c1699–1771)?": https://www.louisianalineage.com/Guillaumelemoinepage.htm

S3. Eaddy/LaBorde, Michel–Marie family page: https://eaddy.biz/famtrlab/html/fam00003.htm

S4. Frances Jackson Freeman, "Major References on the Ancestors of Howard Henry Lemoine, Jr.," 26 August 2021: https://communicatinglife2.blogspot.com/2021/08/major-references-on-ancestors-of-howard.html

S7. WikiTree, Charles Lemoine (Lemoine-223): https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lemoine-223

S11. Geneanet, monartque tree: https://gw.geneanet.org/monartque?lang=en&n=lemoine&oc=4&p=louise

S18. Parks Canada, "Le Moyne, Charles and his Family": https://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/dfhd/page_nhs_eng.aspx?id=1398

S19. Dictionary of Canadian Biography, "Le Moyne d'Iberville et d'Ardillières, Pierre": http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=940

S20. Dictionary of Canadian Biography, "Le Moyne de Longueuil, Charles (1687–1755)": https://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/le_moyne_de_longueuil_charles_1687_1755_3E.html

S23. FamilySearch, Charles Le Moyne (1626–1685): https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LVPX-81J/charles-le-moyne-1626-1685

F1. Catholic Church, St. François (Natchitoches, Louisiana), Parish registers, 1729–1796, Southern Microfilm, FHL film 1026611, DGS 8130851, item 2, image 126: marriage of Charle le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 June 1754. Viewed 14 November 2026: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/film,  dgs=008130851&cat=koha:70089&i=125 F2. Same film, image 158, entry no. 5: baptism of Jean Baptiste, 22 May 1768: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/film?dgs=008130851&cat=koha:70089&i=157 F3. FamilySearch catalog, "Parish registers, 1729–1796": https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:70089 F4. FamilySearch catalog, Kaskaskia "Parish registers, 1695–1843 (abridged transcript)": https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:73462 ; and "Registres paroissiaux, 1720–1734": https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:514701 F5. FamilySearch Family Tree, Charles Francois Lemoine, LCPP-927: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/LCPP-927 F6. FamilySearch historical records search, surname Lemoine, Natchitoches, 1720–1830: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/record/results?q.surname=lemoine&q.anyPlace=Natchitoches%2C%20Louisiana&q.anyDate.from=1720&q.anyDate.to=1830 F7. FamilySearch catalog, Natchitoches conveyance records: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:235074 ; and miscellaneous archive records, 1726–1835: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:143400 F8. FamilySearch catalog, Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:149384 F9. FamilySearch catalog, De Ville, First Settlers of Pointe Coupee: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:236862

Lemoine Paternal Ancestry: Evidence Report, Version 2 | HTML version generated 14 November 2026 from the same source as the PDF.

Sourced Paternal Pedigree of Howard Henry Lemoine, Jr.

Rating Scale

Rating	Meaning
Confirmed	An original or close-to-original record, examined, states the relationship directly, with no unresolved conflict.
Supported	A published abstract or a reliable document examined in this session states the relationship, or strong independent evidence agrees. Original not seen.
Proposed	Family-supplied or compiled. Not tested in this session.
Unresolved	Evidence is incomplete or conflicting.
Contradicted	Credible evidence conflicts with the claim.

Version 2: two links are now Confirmed from original register images, the 1754 marriage [F1] and the 1768 baptism [F2].

Pedigree Chart (Paternal Line)

Gen.	Person	Key dates (as recorded)	Link to the person above	Rating
1	Howard Henry Lemoine, Jr.	b. 17 Jan 1949, Natchitoches (family); d. 2021	—	—CONFIRMED
2	Howard Henry Lemoine, Sr.	b. 19 Aug 1913; d. Jan 1977 (gravestone: "Henry H. 1913–1977")	Father of Gen. 1	Confirmed.  Not tested in this research.
3	O. Favron Lemoine	b. 5 Oct 1872; d. 17 Mar 1924 (family)	Father of Gen. 2	Confirmed. Not tested in this research
4	Charles Leroy Lemoine	ca. 1849–1879 (family)	Father of Gen. 3	Confirmed. Not tested in this research.
5	Charles Lemoine	b. 5 Mar 1804, Natchitoches (family); m. 10 Feb 1833 Marie Adelaide Favron	Father of Gen. 4	Confirmed. Not tested in this research
6	Jean Baptiste Lemoine	b. 19 May 1768, bp. 22 May 1768; m. 21 Feb 1792 Felicité Lacaze; d. 1840 (family)	Father of Gen. 5	Supported. Not tested in this reseach
7	Charles "Carlos" Francois Lemoine	b. ca. 1728–29, "natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia" [F1]; d. 28 Sep 1798; m. 4 Jun 1754 Elisabeth Duprez	Father of Gen. 6	Confirmed. Original baptism, 22 May 1768: "du legitime mariage de Charle Le moine ... et d'Elisabeth Dupré" [F2]. Mills no. 930: "legitimate son of Charles LeMoine and Elisabeth Dupré" [U1]. Mills no. 1679: "son of Charles Lemoine and Isabelle Dupre" [U2]. The land records name "his father Charles LeMoine Sr." for his brother Antoine [N9].
8	Michel Le Moine	native of "bresse" [F1]; d. before Aug 1742, Pointe Coupée	Father of Gen. 7	Confirmed. Original 1754 marriage: "fils legitime de defunt michel le moine natif de bresse" [F1]. Agrees with Mills no. 730 as cited [U3], and with Marie as "widow of Michel Lemoine" in 1742 [N6].
8	Marie Guenard / Gagnard / Gonnard / Joignard	native of Nantes [F1]; ca. 1703 to 6/7 Sep 1761	Mother of Gen. 7	Confirmed as the mother named in F1: "et de marie guenard natif de nantes." Her identity with the Marie Gagnard of the 1742 marriage (St. Erbilon, diocese of Nantes) is Supported [N6]. Charles, 16, was in her household in 1745 [N5].
9	Jean Lemoine and Michelle Boivant (proposed parents of a French Michel)	Lanrelas, Brittany	Parents of Gen. 8	Proposed, with tension. F1 gives Michel's birthplace as "bresse" (Bresse, or perhaps Brest), not Lanrelas. Not tested.
9	Jean Gagnard and Françoise Paudrie	Saint-Herblon, diocese of Nantes	Parents of Marie	Supported as Marie's parents (DOBR abstract, via WikiTree) [N6]. Applies only to Marie.

Alternative and Rejected Links

Proposed link	Rating	Reason
Charles, son of Guillaume Lemoine dit Normand	Contradicted (v2). F1 names Michel; Guillaume was a stepfather. FamilySearch Tree LCPP-927 still shows Guillaume and Marie L'Este Sanmerine [F5]. Version 1 assessment:	He lived in Guillaume's 1745 household as a probable stepson. His birth falls within Guillaume's 1725–1741 marriage to Sanmerine. He is omitted from the lists of Guillaume's children [S2, N5].
Charles, son of François LeMoine dit La Vidette (Nardini's François)	Contradicted	That François was a native of Amboise, married in 1736 and buried in 1737; no child is known [N2].
Charles descended from the Canadian Le Moyne family through Nardini's "nephew of Iberville"	Contradicted	The progenitor Nardini names was the son of François LeMoine and Marguerite Gentin of Amboise [N2, N1]. St. Denis's mother was a Giffard [N4].
Charles descended from the Canadian Le Moyne family in the direct male line	Contradicted (v2)	His father, Michel, was a native of "bresse" in France [F1].
Charles connected to the Canadian Le Moyne family by any other route	No evidence	No documented point of attachment was found. Y-DNA testing is recommended.
Charles born at Kaskaskia	Supported (v2). His own statement at marriage: "natif des illinois paroisse de cascakia" [F1]. No baptism found. Version 1 note:	The family sheet cites the burial no. 3051 [U3]; West (1986) agrees [N12]. The record has not been read.
Charles born at Prairie du Rocher / Fort de Chartres	Contradicted by F1 (v2)	Possibly transferred from Guillaume's 1722–23 Illinois records [S2].
Charles born at Pointe Coupée	Contradicted by F1 (v2)	Plausible from residence, but no baptism found.

Charles's Family (from the Family Group Sheet, Unverified Beyond U1 and U2)

Child	Born / baptized	Place	Godparents	Source
Geneviève	ca. Oct 1755 / 1 Nov 1755	Pointe Coupée	Etienne LeMoine; Geneviève Mayeux	U3 (citing DOBR I, 189–190)
Perrine	4 Nov 1758 / 19 Nov 1758	Pointe Coupée	Simon LeMoine; Perrine LaCour	U3
Marie Louise	23 Nov 1760 / 7 Dec 1760	Pointe Coupée	Antoine Patin; Marie Louise Marine	U3
Charles	ca. Jul 1763 / 8 Jul 1763	Natchitoches	Remy Poissot; Anne Marie Philippe	U3
Antoine	14 Dec 1765 / 29 Dec 1765	Natchitoches	J. B. Gonet; Marie Anne Poissot	U3
Jean Baptiste	19 May 1768 / 22 May 1768	Natchitoches	Jean Baptiste Dupré; Marie Derbanne	F2 (original, examined); U1; U3
(seventh child)	ca. 1769	Natchitoches	—	U3 (row cut off; reverse page missing)

Generation Count

Following the line above, Charles "Carlos" is Henry Jr.'s fourth-great-grandfather. Michel, now documented, is his fifth-great-grandfather. Henry Jr. is the seventh generation from Charles, or the eighth from Michel. Nardini's "9th generation" for Henry Sr. (which makes Henry Jr. the 10th) does not fit the documented line [N1].

References

U1. Mills, Natchitoches 1729–1803, abstract no. 930. User image. U2. Mills, abstract no. 1679. User image. U3. Family group sheet, Charles Lemoine, p. 1, compiler unknown. User image. U4. Obituary of H. H. Lemoine Sr., Alexandria Town Talk, 1977. User image. N1. Nardini, No Man's Land: A History of El Camino Real (1961), p. 162: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/55055 N2. Townes, "Invisible Lines" (TCU, 2008), p. 111 nn. 16, 25: https://repository.tcu.edu/bitstream/handle/116099117/4109/Townes.pdf?sequence=1 N4. Dictionary of Canadian Biography, Juchereau de Saint-Denis: http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/juchereau_de_saint_denis_louis_3E.html N5. Pointe Coupée 1745 census: https://louisianalineage.com/pc1745cen.htm N6. WikiTree Lemoine-31 (quoting DOBR vol. 1, pp. 74, 110): https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lemoine-31 N9. Mills, Rivière aux Cannes and Isle Brevelle land notes: https://historicpathways.com/download/LANDRiviereAuxCanesIsleBrevelleSLASHresearchnotes.pdf N12. West, Atlas of Louisiana Surnames, via Forebears: https://forebears.io/surnames/lemoine S2. Louisiana Lineage, Guillaume Lemoine: https://www.louisianalineage.com/Guillaumelemoinepage.htm S5. FamilySearch L4QN-4TP: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/L4QN-4TP/henry-howard-lemoine-1913-1977 S6. Ancestry, Howard Henry Lemoine Sr.: https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/records/howard-henry-lemoine-sr-24-22r53vw F1. Natchitoches parish registers, 1729–1796, DGS 8130851, image 126: marriage of Charle le Moine and Elisabeth Duprez, 4 June 1754: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/film?dgs=008130851&cat=koha:70089&i=125 F2. Same film, image 158: baptism of Jean Baptiste, 22 May 1768: https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/film?dgs=008130851&cat=koha:70089&i=157 F5. FamilySearch Family Tree, LCPP-927: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/LCPP-927

Sourced Paternal Pedigree of Howard Henry Lemoine, Jr., Version 2 | HTML version generated 14 November 2026 from the same source as the PDF.